Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi
April 20, 2008. Queenie D interviews budding Paranormal Adventure novelist and New Zealander, Dawn Rotarangi, on her book Ripples on the Lake.
Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 1
A
paranormal story is so different from your traditional family, relationship, friendship, etc story. Where did you get the inspiration for
Ripples?
I'm
a Stephen King fan from way back so that I've always been drawn to stories with that extra dimension. I did try writing traditional romance
but my heart was never in it and there was always a paranormal subplot that would eventually run wild and engulf the romance so eventually I
stopped fighting it. I wrote the story I wanted to and Ripples on the Lake was the result of that.
The actual inspiration came from Hatupatu's Rock, a rock near my home here in New Zealand, where people often leave a coin as a mark of
respect, just as they do at Tama Ariki's Rock in my story. The Maori people tell stories about a young man called Hatupatu who centuries ago
used the rock as a place of refuge when chased by a "bird woman". Originally, travelers would leave a green twig so that they could safely
pass by, but now a coin is the usual token left. A Maori elder told me about people stealing coins from Hatupatu's Rock and some of the
dreadful things that happened to those people. Those people certainly did seem to attract far more bad luck than most people and it was clear
that the bad luck cut a wide swathe through their families.
Queenie D: What sort of "dreadful things" happened to those people?
Dawn R: Accidents, murder, physically handicapped children - horrible things extending over a number of generations. It seems so unfair
that children should be punished for the sins of the father, although it's a concept with it's roots in Christianity, but a family whose
grandfather stole coins from Hatupatu's Rock is still suffering today. Now maybe that is coincidence - but maybe it isn't.
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Is
there any truth or background to the legend of Tama Ariki? Not being from New Zealand I am wondering how much of your inspiration is rooted
in actual legend, folklore, and beliefs?
Well,
there never was a figure in New Zealand history called Tama Ariki so in that sense the character is totally fictitious. But the Maori people
have a tradition of story telling where actual history and mythology become totally intertwined - so much so that it's impossible to separate
them. And I tried to recreate that in Ripples - to make Tama Ariki a man with real other-world abilities, a man that you believed could be
masterminding a vendetta that carried down over the centuries.
The whole concept of utu - which means "repayment" and is almost always used in the sense of revenge - is very strong in Maori culture. In
past centuries it certainly was common for revenge of a wrong to be paid back by someone from a later generation. It was a family's duty to do
that.
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Obviously
you want to elicit a strong reaction from your readers. You definitely achieved this with me! I was saddened by Saffron's losses, horrified
at the "bloody bag of bodies" right along with her, and at peace when the bones turned back into chubby little babies. For me to feel this
way it was imperative for the disturbing things to happen. But I shuddered at the grotesqueness of the deaths. Is it hard to write these
scenes? If so, how did you disassociate yourself enough to do it? If not, do you think it's a personality trait that allows you not to be
affected emotionally by this horror?
It
was very hard to write some of the scenes.
I find that I "see" a story in a succession of still clips - almost like an old movie juddering along. And - and I'm guessing that you're
referring to the beach scene - that was how I saw it. So much blood. And a feeling of such despair at not being able to stop things. That
despair just tore me up. I was crying as I typed and when I'd finished that scene I thought "well, I can't have that in the book. It's too
bloody - too graphic." So I tried to change it - to water it down, but I couldn't. The story disappeared when I tried to just hint at the
awfulness of that scene. You had to be there with Saffron and walk through that blood and experience those feelings for the story to make
sense.
Stephen King once likened writing a story to unearthing a fossil. He said a story is already fully formed. All the writer needs to do is
chip away the bits of debris that don't belong there. That's what I tried to do - just dust away the bits that didn't belong. When I left
out that scene it was as if I'd knocked an entire leg off the fossil. It toppled over.
So there are scenes in Ripples that affected me strongly when I wrote them and still affect me when I read them today - but I believe they are
true to the story.
Queenie D: I'm going to admit, I was shocked by some of the scenes of absolute cruelty and brutality - especially involving the babies.
Do you feel it was necessary to include such graphic images of death and blood to drive home the point of the novel?
Dawn R: If you think about the story without those scenes, I think you'll find the story has gone. I never thought in terms of
deliberately having so much blood in the book.
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The
character I loved to hate was Gilbert. I thought you did a great job bringing him to life from his desperate love for Daphne to his sudden
change into raving madman after Saf. Is he based on anyone you've known?
(chuckle)
I have to confess that some elements of him are! As a young woman, I spent a few months as the focus of a middle-aged man's obsession.
Everywhere I went he seemed to spring up out of the woodwork to hover attentively around me. I mean you start off trying to be kind but end
up thoroughly annoyed with them. Anyway, you won't be surprised to hear that he was small and dark - just like Gilbert.
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I
wanted more back story about the Delaney mother. I assume she left because of her husband's gambling problem? Did you leave her out so we
could really see how Saf "mothered" the rest of the Delaney kids?
Yes,
she was very deliberately left out of the story. I needed readers to see how Saffron was the "mother" of this family so that it was believable
that she would go to such lengths to safe them. Lucky Del's gambling destroyed that family and it was only through Saffron that they survived.
The story rushes along at quite a pace and I felt that to dwell too long on what happened to some of those other characters would slow the
pace down.
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What
happened to Nick's wife? I know that she died in what seems like a somewhat brutal manner. Could he have helped her and was too busy
photographing it to do so? Is that why she haunts him?
Yes,
Nick's wife had her arm blown off in a bomb blast. He was covering the conflict in Baghdad and had traveled to neighboring Syria to meet up
with her. He saw the blast and raced in and took a number of images of the destruction before he realized that Fay was one of the people
dying in front of him.
The camera is a very distancing medium. I did quite a bit of freelance press photography when I was younger and there were moments when I
shocked myself with my ability to disassociate myself from the mayhem. It's as if you become removed from the scene. That aspect troubled
me a lot. I wonder how the paparazzi live with themselves sometimes. I used those conflicting emotions that I had felt and gave them to Nick
Jones.
And that's why such a talented photographer ends up working in a small New Zealand town. He was punishing himself. He could not forgive
himself for taking those photographs. He tells himself - hang on (sound of Dawn flicking through pages) "one day, when he'd got his head
around the fact that he'd photographed his wife while her lifeblood spurted away, he'd start worrying whether it would have been OK if she'd
been someone else's wife." Nick still had a whole lot of forgiving to do.
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My
favorite character by leaps and bounds was Big Wal. He was Saffron's spiritual guide and I loved that he was so connected to that world. The
walk with his ancestors is one of my favorite scenes of the novel. The beating of Billy didn't seem to fit with his character. Can you give a
little more detail about this?
Ah,
Big Wal! It seems that everyone loves Big Wal. He's like your favorite uncle, isn't he?
I agree that his beating of Billy was brutal but for Big Wal it was absolutely necessary. Because of his "connectedness" to the world of his
ancestors, he knew the history of those coins the moment they touched his counter. He was a happily married, middle-aged man with grandchildren
and his little business. He knew that Billy's action of placing the coins on his counter put all that he loved at risk.
So - if a savage dog threatened one of his grandchildren, Big Wal would have grabbed that baseball bat he kept under his counter and used it in
defense. To Big Wal, what Billy had just done was exactly the same. Those coins were "tapu" - so sacred that for their own safety people had
to be stopped from touching them. And then this stupid kid dumps them on his counter and tries to buy a burger from him with them. Big Wal
had no option.
And remember, he does ask Billy a number of times to remove the coins. It was only when Billy refused that Big Wal was forced to act.
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Are
you finished with the Delaney's or might we see them again in another story?
I
don't think there will be another story about the Delaney's - it feels complete - but I do like the idea of some of them maybe having a small
role in another story. Stephen King characters often talk about characters or events from other King stories and I love that. Adds a real
sense of history to his tales.
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What
other projects are you working on right now?
I
have a rough draft of another story that is also set in Taupo. I seem to be moving very slowly with it but hopefully, one day I will get that
finished. For some reason my stories all seem to be set in Taupo. It's a popular New Zealand tourist town and I live about 50 kilometers away
nowadays but spent lots of family holidays there when I was a child. For me, it's a place of happy memories.
I was lucky that Ripples on the Lake spent a number of weeks on the New Zealand Best Seller list so that many people emailed me to say
they loved the story. It made me realize what a privilege it is to tell stories to people - you connect - and knowing that people are waiting
for another story makes me want to deliver. But I can't force it. I'm probably not a commercial writer in that, although my topics and my
handling of them are commercial - and I've just had a reviewer use the term "directed at a popular audience" as if it was a string of four
letter words - my stories seem to need a long incubation time.
Queenie D: What's wrong with writing for a popular audience?
Dawn R: Yes, it surprised me too. Surely the popular audience are the majority of the book-buying public? What's wrong with writing
stories that people want to read? Certainly one reviewer criticized everything from the title to the price to the cover as being 'directed
at a popular audience.' The inference seemed to be that this was not good.
Queenie D: Does that hurt?
Dawn R: Yes. A story is like your child. You want everyone to love it although you know that isn't possible. But a number of teachers
are using Ripples on the Lake in the classroom as a story that teenagers can enjoy and yet also get them thinking seriously about New Zealand
history and the whole Maori/Pakeha equation. That gives me a lot of pleasure. Makes up for the occasional person who just doesn't get it.
Queenie D: Pakeha?
Dawn R: That's the word for non-Maori New Zealanders.
Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 10
Tell
us a little bit about yourself besides authoring. What else do you find time to squeeze in?
I
live in a rural setting in the very center of the North Island of New Zealand with my husband. It's a place that gives you lots of time with
your thoughts so that eventually I'm sure there will be other stories. The images keep popping into my head.
There has been some interest in making a movie based on Ripples but it didn't pan out in the end. I'd love it if someone did put it on
the big screen.
I blog sporadically and although it started out as a "writing" blog, it has become more of a chat with internet friends so that if any of the
Book Club Queen readers want to join in I'd love to see them at The Flightless Writer.
Or if they simply want a little more background on Ripples on the Lake or the town of Taupo where the story is set
then my website might interest them. Between an internet business, the writing, the
blog and three boisterous dogs, I keep busy.
Well
Dawn, thanks for a great read and you've found a loyal fan at Book Club Queen!
It's
been my pleasure, Queenie D.
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