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Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi

April 20, 2008. Queenie D interviews budding Paranormal Adventure novelist
and New Zealander, Dawn Rotarangi, on her book Ripples on the Lake.

Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 1

Book Club Queen
A paranormal story is so different from your traditional family, relationship, friendship, etc story. Where did you get the inspiration for Ripples?



Dawn Rotarangi
I'm a Stephen King fan from way back so that I've always been drawn to stories with that extra dimension. I did try writing traditional romance but my heart was never in it and there was always a paranormal subplot that would eventually run wild and engulf the romance so eventually I stopped fighting it. I wrote the story I wanted to and Ripples on the Lake was the result of that.

The actual inspiration came from Hatupatu's Rock, a rock near my home here in New Zealand, where people often leave a coin as a mark of respect, just as they do at Tama Ariki's Rock in my story. The Maori people tell stories about a young man called Hatupatu who centuries ago used the rock as a place of refuge when chased by a "bird woman". Originally, travelers would leave a green twig so that they could safely pass by, but now a coin is the usual token left. A Maori elder told me about people stealing coins from Hatupatu's Rock and some of the dreadful things that happened to those people. Those people certainly did seem to attract far more bad luck than most people and it was clear that the bad luck cut a wide swathe through their families.

Queenie D: What sort of "dreadful things" happened to those people?

Dawn R: Accidents, murder, physically handicapped children - horrible things extending over a number of generations. It seems so unfair that children should be punished for the sins of the father, although it's a concept with it's roots in Christianity, but a family whose grandfather stole coins from Hatupatu's Rock is still suffering today. Now maybe that is coincidence - but maybe it isn't.




Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 1


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 2

Book Club Queen
Is there any truth or background to the legend of Tama Ariki? Not being from New Zealand I am wondering how much of your inspiration is rooted in actual legend, folklore, and beliefs?



Dawn Rotarangi
Well, there never was a figure in New Zealand history called Tama Ariki so in that sense the character is totally fictitious. But the Maori people have a tradition of story telling where actual history and mythology become totally intertwined - so much so that it's impossible to separate them. And I tried to recreate that in Ripples - to make Tama Ariki a man with real other-world abilities, a man that you believed could be masterminding a vendetta that carried down over the centuries.

The whole concept of utu - which means "repayment" and is almost always used in the sense of revenge - is very strong in Maori culture. In past centuries it certainly was common for revenge of a wrong to be paid back by someone from a later generation. It was a family's duty to do that.




Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 2


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 3

Book Club Queen
Obviously you want to elicit a strong reaction from your readers. You definitely achieved this with me! I was saddened by Saffron's losses, horrified at the "bloody bag of bodies" right along with her, and at peace when the bones turned back into chubby little babies. For me to feel this way it was imperative for the disturbing things to happen. But I shuddered at the grotesqueness of the deaths. Is it hard to write these scenes? If so, how did you disassociate yourself enough to do it? If not, do you think it's a personality trait that allows you not to be affected emotionally by this horror?



Dawn Rotarangi
It was very hard to write some of the scenes.

I find that I "see" a story in a succession of still clips - almost like an old movie juddering along. And - and I'm guessing that you're referring to the beach scene - that was how I saw it. So much blood. And a feeling of such despair at not being able to stop things. That despair just tore me up. I was crying as I typed and when I'd finished that scene I thought "well, I can't have that in the book. It's too bloody - too graphic." So I tried to change it - to water it down, but I couldn't. The story disappeared when I tried to just hint at the awfulness of that scene. You had to be there with Saffron and walk through that blood and experience those feelings for the story to make sense.

Stephen King once likened writing a story to unearthing a fossil. He said a story is already fully formed. All the writer needs to do is chip away the bits of debris that don't belong there. That's what I tried to do - just dust away the bits that didn't belong. When I left out that scene it was as if I'd knocked an entire leg off the fossil. It toppled over.

So there are scenes in Ripples that affected me strongly when I wrote them and still affect me when I read them today - but I believe they are true to the story.

Queenie D: I'm going to admit, I was shocked by some of the scenes of absolute cruelty and brutality - especially involving the babies. Do you feel it was necessary to include such graphic images of death and blood to drive home the point of the novel?

Dawn R: If you think about the story without those scenes, I think you'll find the story has gone. I never thought in terms of deliberately having so much blood in the book.




Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 3


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 4

Book Club Queen
The character I loved to hate was Gilbert. I thought you did a great job bringing him to life from his desperate love for Daphne to his sudden change into raving madman after Saf. Is he based on anyone you've known?



Dawn Rotarangi
(chuckle) I have to confess that some elements of him are! As a young woman, I spent a few months as the focus of a middle-aged man's obsession. Everywhere I went he seemed to spring up out of the woodwork to hover attentively around me. I mean you start off trying to be kind but end up thoroughly annoyed with them. Anyway, you won't be surprised to hear that he was small and dark - just like Gilbert.








Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 4


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 5

Book Club Queen
I wanted more back story about the Delaney mother. I assume she left because of her husband's gambling problem? Did you leave her out so we could really see how Saf "mothered" the rest of the Delaney kids?



Dawn Rotarangi
Yes, she was very deliberately left out of the story. I needed readers to see how Saffron was the "mother" of this family so that it was believable that she would go to such lengths to safe them. Lucky Del's gambling destroyed that family and it was only through Saffron that they survived. The story rushes along at quite a pace and I felt that to dwell too long on what happened to some of those other characters would slow the pace down.








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Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 6

Book Club Queen
What happened to Nick's wife? I know that she died in what seems like a somewhat brutal manner. Could he have helped her and was too busy photographing it to do so? Is that why she haunts him?



Dawn Rotarangi
Yes, Nick's wife had her arm blown off in a bomb blast. He was covering the conflict in Baghdad and had traveled to neighboring Syria to meet up with her. He saw the blast and raced in and took a number of images of the destruction before he realized that Fay was one of the people dying in front of him.

The camera is a very distancing medium. I did quite a bit of freelance press photography when I was younger and there were moments when I shocked myself with my ability to disassociate myself from the mayhem. It's as if you become removed from the scene. That aspect troubled me a lot. I wonder how the paparazzi live with themselves sometimes. I used those conflicting emotions that I had felt and gave them to Nick Jones.

And that's why such a talented photographer ends up working in a small New Zealand town. He was punishing himself. He could not forgive himself for taking those photographs. He tells himself - hang on (sound of Dawn flicking through pages) "one day, when he'd got his head around the fact that he'd photographed his wife while her lifeblood spurted away, he'd start worrying whether it would have been OK if she'd been someone else's wife." Nick still had a whole lot of forgiving to do.




Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 6


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 7

Book Club Queen
My favorite character by leaps and bounds was Big Wal. He was Saffron's spiritual guide and I loved that he was so connected to that world. The walk with his ancestors is one of my favorite scenes of the novel. The beating of Billy didn't seem to fit with his character. Can you give a little more detail about this?



Dawn Rotarangi
Ah, Big Wal! It seems that everyone loves Big Wal. He's like your favorite uncle, isn't he?

I agree that his beating of Billy was brutal but for Big Wal it was absolutely necessary. Because of his "connectedness" to the world of his ancestors, he knew the history of those coins the moment they touched his counter. He was a happily married, middle-aged man with grandchildren and his little business. He knew that Billy's action of placing the coins on his counter put all that he loved at risk.

So - if a savage dog threatened one of his grandchildren, Big Wal would have grabbed that baseball bat he kept under his counter and used it in defense. To Big Wal, what Billy had just done was exactly the same. Those coins were "tapu" - so sacred that for their own safety people had to be stopped from touching them. And then this stupid kid dumps them on his counter and tries to buy a burger from him with them. Big Wal had no option.

And remember, he does ask Billy a number of times to remove the coins. It was only when Billy refused that Big Wal was forced to act.




Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 7


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 8

Book Club Queen
Are you finished with the Delaney's or might we see them again in another story?



Dawn Rotarangi
I don't think there will be another story about the Delaney's - it feels complete - but I do like the idea of some of them maybe having a small role in another story. Stephen King characters often talk about characters or events from other King stories and I love that. Adds a real sense of history to his tales.












Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 8


Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 9

Book Club Queen
What other projects are you working on right now?



Dawn Rotarangi
I have a rough draft of another story that is also set in Taupo. I seem to be moving very slowly with it but hopefully, one day I will get that finished. For some reason my stories all seem to be set in Taupo. It's a popular New Zealand tourist town and I live about 50 kilometers away nowadays but spent lots of family holidays there when I was a child. For me, it's a place of happy memories.

I was lucky that Ripples on the Lake spent a number of weeks on the New Zealand Best Seller list so that many people emailed me to say they loved the story. It made me realize what a privilege it is to tell stories to people - you connect - and knowing that people are waiting for another story makes me want to deliver. But I can't force it. I'm probably not a commercial writer in that, although my topics and my handling of them are commercial - and I've just had a reviewer use the term "directed at a popular audience" as if it was a string of four letter words - my stories seem to need a long incubation time.

Queenie D: What's wrong with writing for a popular audience?

Dawn R: Yes, it surprised me too. Surely the popular audience are the majority of the book-buying public? What's wrong with writing stories that people want to read? Certainly one reviewer criticized everything from the title to the price to the cover as being 'directed at a popular audience.' The inference seemed to be that this was not good.

Queenie D: Does that hurt?

Dawn R: Yes. A story is like your child. You want everyone to love it although you know that isn't possible. But a number of teachers are using Ripples on the Lake in the classroom as a story that teenagers can enjoy and yet also get them thinking seriously about New Zealand history and the whole Maori/Pakeha equation. That gives me a lot of pleasure. Makes up for the occasional person who just doesn't get it.

Queenie D: Pakeha?

Dawn R: That's the word for non-Maori New Zealanders.





Book Interview Dawn Rotarangi Question 10

Book Club Queen
Tell us a little bit about yourself besides authoring. What else do you find time to squeeze in?



Dawn Rotarangi
I live in a rural setting in the very center of the North Island of New Zealand with my husband. It's a place that gives you lots of time with your thoughts so that eventually I'm sure there will be other stories. The images keep popping into my head.

There has been some interest in making a movie based on Ripples but it didn't pan out in the end. I'd love it if someone did put it on the big screen.

I blog sporadically and although it started out as a "writing" blog, it has become more of a chat with internet friends so that if any of the Book Club Queen readers want to join in I'd love to see them at The Flightless Writer.

Or if they simply want a little more background on Ripples on the Lake or the town of Taupo where the story is set then my website might interest them. Between an internet business, the writing, the blog and three boisterous dogs, I keep busy.





Book Club Queen
Well Dawn, thanks for a great read and you've found a loyal fan at Book Club Queen!



Dawn Rotarangi
It's been my pleasure, Queenie D.













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